lejfk
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Post by lejfk on May 16, 2008 16:03:05 GMT -7
Hi, long time listener, first time caller:
I've been lurking and thinking about a ceiling IB manifold for a while. However, I saw in one of the other installation threads that one of the posters didn't recommend an IB in a lathe and plaster ceiling w/out reinforcement:
"well... with lathe & plaster you might want to consider putting up another layer with say a 12mm of plywood or something sturdy because with the low frequencies that IB's can produce it won't take long to come in one day and find all your tile and plaster on the floor... it's very powerfull, i know my system easily flexes windows, doors and especially the ceiling effortlessly."
This would be a deal killer for me. I have a 1925 bungalow I've put a lot of effort into restoring and the lathe and plaster ceiling in the living room (where the ht system is) is original and in pretty good shape. I would not consider covering it for an IB. So, please give me everyone's honest feedback because this would be a deal killer. (Not that I wouldn't try again with the next house ;D)
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Post by ThomasW on May 16, 2008 16:35:51 GMT -7
IIRC the reply was specific to the situation the original poster was describing (a deteriorating ceiling.) It was not a generic reply to anyone/everyone with a plaster and lathe ceiling.
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Post by norpus on Jun 23, 2008 17:28:52 GMT -7
Hi, long time listener, first time caller: I've been lurking and thinking about a ceiling IB manifold for a while. However, I saw in one of the other installation threads that one of the posters didn't recommend an IB in a lathe and plaster ceiling w/out reinforcement: "well... with lathe & plaster you might want to consider putting up another layer with say a 12mm of plywood or something sturdy because with the low frequencies that IB's can produce it won't take long to come in one day and find all your tile and plaster on the floor... it's very powerfull, i know my system easily flexes windows, doors and especially the ceiling effortlessly." This would be a deal killer for me. I have a 1925 bungalow I've put a lot of effort into restoring and the lathe and plaster ceiling in the living room (where the ht system is) is original and in pretty good shape. I would not consider covering it for an IB. So, please give me everyone's honest feedback because this would be a deal killer. (Not that I wouldn't try again with the next house ;D) I have a similar age bungalow with lathe and plaster so understand where you are coming from Put the IB in the floor (if your floors are wooden and on stumps like mine) and problem solved. |
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stewlg
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Post by stewlg on Jun 24, 2008 13:22:47 GMT -7
Other posters are correct, I'm not the same situation as you. My plaster & lathe ceiling is rotting, and covered by an not-as-ugly-but-still-pretty-awful cellulose tile ceiling by firring strips. I think the warning is worth considering, but in my case if the plaster collapses, the damage should be contained by the cellulose tile below it. Also, none of the floors in my 1921 house are anywhere near true, and many of the walls have cracks. I should have plenty of scapegoats should the IB do any further damage.  |
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lejfk
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Post by lejfk on Jun 29, 2008 0:17:30 GMT -7
Hi, long time listener, first time caller: I've been lurking and thinking about a ceiling IB manifold for a while. However, I saw in one of the other installation threads that one of the posters didn't recommend an IB in a lathe and plaster ceiling w/out reinforcement: "well... with lathe & plaster you might want to consider putting up another layer with say a 12mm of plywood or something sturdy because with the low frequencies that IB's can produce it won't take long to come in one day and find all your tile and plaster on the floor... it's very powerfull, i know my system easily flexes windows, doors and especially the ceiling effortlessly." This would be a deal killer for me. I have a 1925 bungalow I've put a lot of effort into restoring and the lathe and plaster ceiling in the living room (where the ht system is) is original and in pretty good shape. I would not consider covering it for an IB. So, please give me everyone's honest feedback because this would be a deal killer. (Not that I wouldn't try again with the next house ;D) I have a similar age bungalow with lathe and plaster so understand where you are coming from Put the IB in the floor (if your floors are wooden and on stumps like mine) and problem solved. The more I think about it--this is the better approach. I just have to get over the idea of cutting a hole in the red oak flooring. |
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Post by norpus on Jul 3, 2008 6:49:40 GMT -7
The more I think about it--this is the better approach. I just have to get over the idea of cutting a hole in the red oak flooring. I have polished Baltic pine - others thought I was crazy but not me. I even did it twice for luck ;D |
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inm8
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Post by inm8 on Jul 8, 2008 19:44:58 GMT -7
My parents place was built in 1927 and has lathen plaster. Their IB has been operating for about a year now, and not one crack has shown up. Design the manifold so all the mechanical forces cancel (ie: a cube with drivers mounted on the four vertical sides has this property) and you won't have any problems. On the plus side, all the walls are double brick, so there is no wall "flex" |
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