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Post by chevron on Dec 5, 2011 18:42:02 GMT -7
OK I'm now really keen to do the same as you Wull but overseas shipping costs might be too steep.
Could anybody who has had either the IB3 15" or 18" drivers shipped tell me the shipping weight and the carton size please? I was hoping to take some back with me as checked baggage when I'm in LA next year.
I have tried emailing Ficar a couple of times with no luck and cannot find a phone no. either.
cheers
Mike
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Post by sofakingfast on Dec 7, 2011 19:06:25 GMT -7
33 pounds per ib318 - acording to the ups tracking information from ups. (mine are on the way)
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Post by chevron on Dec 7, 2011 22:24:10 GMT -7
Thanks for that sofa, I should be able to manage that sort of weight - time to place an order!
cheers
Mike
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Post by Wull on Dec 9, 2011 9:16:45 GMT -7
OK I'm now really keen to do the same as you Wull but overseas shipping costs might be too steep. Could anybody who has had either the IB3 15" or 18" drivers shipped tell me the shipping weight and the carton size please? I was hoping to take some back with me as checked baggage when I'm in LA next year. I have tried emailing Ficar a couple of times with no luck and cannot find a phone no. either. cheers Mike Hi Mike. Well it's nice to know my rather chaotic IB build thread has inspired you to build. All I can say is it is really worth the hassle, it truely has completed my system. How come you are planning to ship the drivers, are you UK based? www.bladeice.com/index.php/contact |
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Post by chevron on Dec 9, 2011 15:40:49 GMT -7
Hi Wull,
No, not UK based but NZ which means it is not a common (or cheap!) place for shipping big drivers and the US suppliers always seem to use shipping via air (Fedex or UPS) by default.
This is actually for my third installation. I have a couple of 15" Tempests (remember them?) that I have used in the last two houses and now that I am building a new house I have been bitten by the upgrade bug. I plan to continue to use the Tempests for stereo listening and augment them with the IB318s for home theatre.
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Post by Wull on Dec 10, 2011 1:23:16 GMT -7
Hi Mike, so your NZ based, that explains things, hope you manged to sort your transport. My Fi IB15's came in boxes 16"w/16.5"l/14"h, if this is any help? Having just looked at the box, Bladeice have used 1" foam packing around the edge of the box to protect the driver.
This is your third install, you must like the IB's then. My only regret with my build is not going with the 18's, apart from the hole/holes size that would be required in my ceiling that is. Even though I have sorted my EQ problem, I can still push my 15's to their limits, granted this is not every day levels, it just would have been nice to have a little in reserve.
Having considered replacing them with 18's I decided for once not to be so hasty and live with them some more. I have just about finished upgrading my system, so want to enjoy what I have. I also have got other things on the go that are taking what little brain capacity I have up. I.e projector picture calibration!
I have heard of Tempest, but never listen to them Mike...
cheers.
Will
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Post by chevron on Dec 10, 2011 12:34:38 GMT -7
Thanks for those measurements Will, now I can be sure they won't fit in any suitcase I have!
EQ is a problem for me too as the lounge is likely to be almost square so plenty of scope for nasty room effects.
I had thought of using the two sub setup that Harman (http://www.harman.com/EN-US/OurCompany/Technologyleadership/Documents/White%20Papers/multsubs.pdf) suggest but not sure this is suited in my case. Another option is use some sort of DSP for stereo (all my music is played from a PC) and see what the correction processing in my Pioneer home theatre amp can do for 5.1.
When I had a Squeezebox I tried DRC using Inguz and had mixed results. I'm a GUI guy so fiddling with command line options was too hard and new versions of the player would keep breaking it and then finally support stopped. Maybe it is time for a subwoofer only approach to DRC for the likes of ourselves but unfortunately there seems little interest from the usual suppliers (REW, Audiolense are two I've investigated recently).
cheers
Mike
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Post by bigjon on Dec 11, 2011 13:05:14 GMT -7
FWIW the IB318 shipping boxes are 20.5x20.5x13.5". I weighed one at 34.5 pounds and can vouch for it - getting 4 mounted into a ceiling manifold by myself was right at my physical limit. I certainly wouldn't want to walk around an airport with suitcases full of them.  I'm fairly accustomed to swapping out 50-60 pound servers at work and back in the day lugging 85 pound monitors was a daily maneuver, but the odd weight distribution of a speaker makes it another animal entirely. I suspect you'll find the extra cost to ship them entirely worthwhile. Especially once you've installed them and rotated the gain clockwise.  |
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Post by chevron on Dec 11, 2011 19:00:01 GMT -7
Thanks bigjon, not sure how a 18" speaker fits in a 13.5"x13.5"x20.5" box but I take your point! Having mounted mere 15" speakers in a manifold already I am not looking forward to doing the same with 18" speakers. What I have done which seems to help is to fit a bolt without a head (like the stud on a car wheel) at the top of the hole and use that to hang the speaker from while the other screws\bolts are fitted.
Luckily, just yesterday I was offered space in a container heading this way from LA so I now have a Plan B and no need to lug big heavy speakers around LAX.
cheers
Mike
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Post by bigjon on Dec 11, 2011 21:52:46 GMT -7
Heh, good catch. Make that 20.5x20.5x13.5".  . I'll edit my original post for future readers. I like your idea of using a headless bolt as a hanger for the driver, wish I had thought of that this time last week. I did something similar but at the bottom of the speaker with a couple bolts and fender washers that i had to drop the speaker onto. The hard part was getting the speaker behind the washers - they kept slipping back as I struggled with the speaker. Ultimately I was quite happy with my use of larger bolts with 1" washers as clamps around the speaker instead of using the small holes pre-drilled/cast into the basket assembly. |
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Post by chrisbee on Dec 11, 2011 23:26:11 GMT -7
The odd balance of big drivers means that one bottom fixing will hold the driver safely in its cut-out. Once secured the rest of the fixings can be fitted at leisure. A batten can be fixed just below each cut-out to support the driver rim during fixing. This will take the weight while the bottom bolt or clamp is fitted.
It seems to go completely against logic but it works. You can even use a different means of fixing at the bottom just to get a safe hold on the driver.
The heavy magnet automatically loads the driver rim against the baffle. While the cut-out ensures the driver can't move sideways. The helper battens can be removed afterwards if desired. Or a couple of dowels or studs could be fitted permanently if you worry about appearance.
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Post by bigjon on Dec 12, 2011 20:23:08 GMT -7
A batten can be fixed just below each cut-out to support the driver rim during fixing. This will take the weight while the bottom bolt or clamp is fitted. Great idea. I thought I was doing something similar with the bolt and washer at the bottom of the cutout but in practice it was not easy dealing with the loose washer. I'll use the batten idea for my next build, which will probably be a long time from now. |
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Post by stagefumer11 on Dec 19, 2011 20:50:14 GMT -7
ah another NZder I used the Soundstream LW-15 for my Ib system, they arnt the best suited but heck they do work pretty damn well |
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