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Post by zekeman on Oct 22, 2005 6:32:49 GMT -7
Hello,
I'm new to the forum, am embarking on an IB project, and am considering both of the above components to isolate the low frequencies. I will be running RCA's from a stereo amp into this component and then into my sub amp (a vintage stereo amp).
Has anyone ever used the Outlaw? It seems slick but it more $ than the Behringer. If I decide to go with the Behringer, I will be using RCA's .... can these be connected inexpensively?
Thank You.
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Post by zekeman on Oct 22, 2005 7:17:28 GMT -7
One other thing...my amp is stereo...the Outlaw has a mono switch feature which will be good for the IB in a manifold...can the Behringer convert the freq to mono?
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Post by ThomasW on Oct 22, 2005 8:10:25 GMT -7
Those are two completely different pieces of equipment, doing two completely different functions, it's not a matter of one vs the other.
The ICBM is a active crossover = bass mgt system.
The 1124P is used as a parametric equalizer.
If you don't have a subwoofer output from a pre/pro or another form of active crossover, the ICBM might be a good choice.
The 1124P is used to EQ the bass output from the sub.
You might want to google each piece of gear and read their owners manuals.
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Post by zekeman on Oct 22, 2005 11:50:03 GMT -7
I do not, in fact, have a sub output from my amp/preamp (which is vintage 1979)...so it sounds like if I go with the ICBM and then want to tailor the eq I would need to ADD a DSP1124...is this correct?
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Post by ThomasW on Oct 22, 2005 16:28:58 GMT -7
The ICBM works only with multi-channel sources. This means it won't do anything if you're playing a 2 channel source. If that's ok then go with it.
If however you want to use your sub with 2 channel sources you'll need to consider using an active XO instead of the ICBM. I use a Marchand XM9, a less expensive option is the Paradigm X-30
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Post by zekeman on Oct 23, 2005 9:37:32 GMT -7
Thanks ... but I'm a bit confused. According to what I have read in the owners manual of the ICBM it states that it can be used with a 2 channel stereo:
"...Using the ICBM in a stereo system with a subwoofer..."
...under which it shows using preamp outs into the ICBM and then connecting the sub outputs into the amp that will drive the sub. My idea is to set all of the ICBM's channel controls to the 40Hz setting, thereby isolating the below 40Hz freq's to the sub, and then using its level to tweak the sound. The other think the ICBM does is converts the 2 channel low freq to mono.
In your last post do you mean that this will not work well?
The Marchand and Paradigm options are pricey...are there any components like this that go for about $200-250?
I anxiously await your reply.
Thanks.
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Post by autio on Oct 23, 2005 12:53:25 GMT -7
Look around for a used x-30 . I purchased mine for 75 dollars in the box (it looked brand new) from audiogon.
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Post by ThomasW on Oct 23, 2005 16:39:20 GMT -7
I don't have an ICBM so only looked at the blurb on the Outlaw website. The manual says it does stereo.
I think the MSRP for a X-30 is around $125US
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Post by zekeman on Oct 23, 2005 16:41:13 GMT -7
I'll have to continue to look because the first site I looked at for the X30 was $349.00.
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Post by ThomasW on Oct 23, 2005 19:36:22 GMT -7
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Post by zekeman on Oct 25, 2005 12:40:23 GMT -7
I spoke with the people at Outlaw and they said that this will work. Bentfits are ability to change from stereo to mono, and from 12 to 36 dB slopes.
I ordered on and will report back on how it works.
By the way ... I constructed my cabinet/manifold which is turning out very nicely...weighs a ton (using 3/4" laminated MDF and OSB...so it should be installed and operational this weekend.
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Post by zekeman on Mar 12, 2006 11:15:44 GMT -7
Just to put this one to bed...I have been using the ICBM with my IB since late October and it works very well with my vintage setup.
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Post by Darren on Mar 13, 2006 12:01:22 GMT -7
I've had an ICBM for several years now as well. I bought it because my AV receiver's LFE crosses over at 80hz and I wanted my mains crossed over at 60hz. It really is a great product. It takes all channels including the LFE as input, and then crosses over the mains sending the lower frequencies to the sub in addition to the LFE signal.
I hope I said that right. At any rate it really is a great product. Did exactly what I needed. I now have a BFD in addition for my pending IB. Two different animals that should play well together.
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