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Post by jman on Aug 24, 2006 9:33:33 GMT -7
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Post by mrogowski on Aug 24, 2006 10:49:08 GMT -7
I thought you were referring to price. That looks like a mistake in and of itself...
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Mark
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Post by carl on Aug 24, 2006 10:57:54 GMT -7
That's the correct price.
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Post by carl on Aug 24, 2006 10:59:51 GMT -7
Those are car speakers. An automotive application IB would be for use in a panel without a surrounding enclosure (box).
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Post by ThomasW on Aug 24, 2006 11:57:28 GMT -7
Historically these drivers have had issues with tinsel lead slap.
There's also rumor Chad is trying to sell the business, so....caveat emptor!
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Post by carl on Aug 24, 2006 13:21:33 GMT -7
Thomas, you got da skinny on everything  |
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Post by mrogowski on Aug 24, 2006 17:28:02 GMT -7
Yes, I heard the rumblings about the sale as well. I wouldn't write off the current products because of that tho.
Best,
Mark
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Post by jmprader on Aug 24, 2006 19:33:53 GMT -7
From the FR graphs and little else, these look like they might be a very viable candidate to use as a wide range mid driver in a home IB setup using an 80hz-100hz xover on the bottom and some inexpensive, high x-over ribbons up top...maybe even 2 mids per channel in an MTM setup given the "bargain" price.
Heck, at the "entry level" end, it works out to <$900 plus amplification/shipping/manifold-cabinets for a 2.1 system...$550 something for 4 low cost or 2 mid-level 15" IB drivers, $140 for 4 of these used as mids, $150 for a couple of basic ribbons, $90 for a basic Behringer xover... 5.1 is even a bit better, around $1,600...pretty sweet for a low cost setup...almost too easy...
Would the lead slap issue likely be a significant factor when xover is over 80hz? Any other caveats? Any SQ feedback on these drivers from any users out there? What am I missing (<500 words + glib epithets, please!)
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Post by mrogowski on Aug 24, 2006 19:42:48 GMT -7
Lead slap can be easily remedied by a small piece of felt glued to the back of the cone. No worries...
Best,
Mark
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Post by ThomasW on Aug 24, 2006 20:07:51 GMT -7
Heck, at the "entry level" end, it works out to <$900 plus amplification/shipping/manifold-cabinets for a 2.1 system...$550 something for 4 low cost or 2 mid-level 15" IB drivers, $140 for 4 of these used as mids, $150 for a couple of basic ribbons, $90 for a basic Behringer xover... 5.1 is even a bit better, around $1,600...pretty sweet for a low cost setup...almost too easy... Although a topic for a different forum, there are some pretty amazing drivers being offered by Parts Express (their new RS series). They test as good or better than many high-end European drivers. They cost about the same as the AA driver, and are warrantied for 5yrs by a company that's been in business for a longtime... |
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Post by chrisbee on Aug 25, 2006 0:33:53 GMT -7
I have often wondered wether there was any point in filling in the "dead" area of an IB array with smaller "filler" drivers to achieve a more uniform driver pattern.
Of course these smaller drivers would have to have suitable parameters to match the larger ones. I suppose there might be some loss of stiffness in the baffle as a result of all the extra holes. Increased thickness of the baffle would probably help here.
It might even be better to use (suitable) mulltiple smaller drivers rather than the favoured 12"-18". Fs tends to be rather high with smaller drivers but EQ is cheap and available.
A potential advantage is the possibility of much cheaper multiple units available nearer to home. Thus avoiding the massive international freight charges to Europe and elsewhere for large and heavy US drivers.
We had a member here who used a lot of smaller drivers for his IB but hadn't had time to test it at the time of posting. (if memory serves) Could he kindly give us an update on progress? To prove or disprove the benefits (and possible drawbacks) of the smaller drivers in an IB?
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Post by tch0rt on Aug 26, 2006 13:52:46 GMT -7
Lead slap can be easily remedied by a small piece of felt glued to the back of the cone. No worries... Best, Mark It can also be fixed by hot glueing the extra length of the lead wire to the basket. Ryan |
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