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Post by jasonshep on Feb 28, 2008 11:59:59 GMT -7
16 x 15" ib No goin back now you've said it ! That is just so crazy its brilliant,cant wait to find out the results
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Post by carvernut on Feb 28, 2008 13:45:29 GMT -7
Now that's just plain naughty! Have you always been this competitive? in my ways yes i know for sure i'm ordering RTA equipment tomarrow, then we can get some real time stats for you guys... i really need to finish putting drywall up on the ceiling before tests so i have more acurate bass response
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Post by andreaaghemo on Mar 7, 2008 4:13:49 GMT -7
Ok, Folks, here is my own story: I am the Italian distributor of a few american audio brands (like NHT, Adcom, BG and so on), and , between the others, I have distributed the AE products in Italy until late 2005, when John went practically bankrupt. Basically, my last order in dec 2005 (advanced payment of 3,500 USDollars, approx.) has never been shipped, and even if I have received many promises by John, nor the refund neither the parts did ever show.
Even if I understand that he's been through some very difficult moment (and he has all my simpathy for all that: I'm a family man too), I have to say that to read this thread made me really sad: I was thinking he was a man who stand his word, and I would have expected to be contacted by him, when he'd be able to relaunch his business.
Now , it seems to me that he his "alive and kicking" again, and I hope that he will honor his promises, demonstrating that he's not a thief: I'll keep you guys posted, because I think that when we talk of a "one man band" business like this, loyalty and reputation are very important.
Regards to everybody, and my compliments for the forum!
Andrea Aghemo
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Post by chrisbee on Mar 7, 2008 5:45:06 GMT -7
Andrea
This is very sad news.
Hopefully John has been selling enough products (thanks to our forum support) that he will able to fulfill your order very quickly. Or offer a full refund if that is your preference. Though you may do well as the only European stockist of AE drivers if your prices are reasonable in comparison with US prices + freight + VAT. Otherwise IB builders will just go direct to John @ AE for his drivers. Or not bother with an IB at all! There is a real need for affordable IB drivers in Europe.
While we may like John's obvious expertise, his products and his affordable prices we don't and wont condone poor business practices. Not again.
Our enthusiastic online support for John's products can can be just as quickly turned against him.
If John doesn't quickly respond to your post then please keep us informed here on the IB forum.
Regards Chris
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Post by andreaaghemo on Mar 7, 2008 7:08:46 GMT -7
Chris, thanks for your moral support. I mean, we aren't talking about million dollars, it's mostly a question of honor. Even if I am a "distributor"and a"manufacturer" I'm running a very small company, so I have felt really sad for John in the past, because I realized that what occurred to him could happen to myself in the time of a wink. He explained me by email the whole story posted here about his father and daughters, and being the proud parent of a little earthquake three and a half years old, I know what it means trying to work when you have to take care of your childs. I joined this forum a long time ago, when I was interested in building an IB, then I have almost lost the touch due to the overwhelming amount of things to do; in the meanwhile, I was emailing John every now and then to understand how things were going. I can't describe my surprise when a few days ago, randomly looking for info and feelings about another manufacturer, I've started to surf this forum and the words "John's back" popped out on the screen: I felt my trust betrayed, to say the least.
You know, here in this old country not everybody have "Soprano" as their last name, but respect and reputation still have some value: I do prefer a handshake with a straight look in the other's eyeballs to a fortysix-carved-in-the-stone-pages-contract, and I thought that John was being fair with me....that's why I felt so bad realizing that he was hitting the road again without consideration for the debt still open with my company.
Anyway, we'll see where it goes from here.
Bye, Andrea
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Post by ThomasW on Mar 7, 2008 8:53:03 GMT -7
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Post by andreaaghemo on Mar 7, 2008 18:03:33 GMT -7
Thomas, you are definetely right: sorry if I posted the story here firstly, it's just been an outburst due the "mediterranean blood" which runs in my veins. When I've realized that the guy has restarted his business without paying his debt with us first, I ran outside in the backyard to chop some logs just to recover my usually mild temper: in that very moment, probably I would have killed anybody who'd only asked me which time it was.... Sorry again for that: I followed your suggestion, as you can see here www.aespeakers.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1625I'll keep you guys posted about the developments. Regards, Andrea
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Post by ThomasW on Mar 7, 2008 22:52:58 GMT -7
I'll keep you guys posted about the developments. Again you miss the point, this is not a matter of concern for this forum.
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Post by aespeakers on Mar 8, 2008 21:03:23 GMT -7
I believe everyone by now already knows about what things happened in both my business and personal life over the 2005-2006 period. I will not spend the time going over that all again here as you can read it from before if you wish. When so many things fall apart in a short period of time, it takes awhile to put all the pieces back together. I take full responsibility as I have with everyone else affected by the situation. This particular situation is something that could have easily been taken care of privately, but there has been no contact since 12/9/06 by Andrea Aghemo. A simple email or phone call would have gotten the same response from me as a post on this forum, that being to take care of the return. Regardless, it has now obviously been brought to my attention, Andrea has been contacted privately to verify bank information for the return and the situation will be finalized this coming week.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled IB Subwoofer discussion.
John
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Post by carvernut on Mar 9, 2008 20:48:50 GMT -7
This particular situation is something that could have easily been taken care of privately kinda how i felt
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Post by chrisbee on Mar 10, 2008 1:03:35 GMT -7
With all due respect to all; Andrea had repeatedly failed to obtain satisfaction from John. A public appeal for private justice often has the desired effect. And where better than the forum which produces the most interest in John's products. Here lies the true power of the Internet. It may bring a truly global customer base but is also the same medium in which problems and conflicts are resolved. We are enjoying the new global democracy for all. Where no voice is louder than any other. (regardless of personal power and wealth) This new freedom of speech should not be abused. Or the powers-that-be will simply take it away on any pretext they can muster. They are already doing so over large tracts of the globe with the connivance of global Internet operators from the free world. Now I'll shut up. (just for once)
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Post by andreaaghemo on Mar 26, 2008 9:20:57 GMT -7
I have to be fair with John Janowitz: it really took a while, but we finally found a resonable agreement to solve our matter. It's going to take another two or three months before everything it's definetevely settled, but I believe that John will stand his word. I know that ThomasW said that this is not a matter of concern for this forum, but I thought it'd just be honest, on my side, to inform everybody who might have an interest about the development of the situation. Regards to eveybody,
Andrea Aghemo
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